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Reply to: ‘Harder but smarter? Co-designing together’ by Robert and Donetto
  1. Christopher William Hayes
  1. Correspondence to Dr Christopher Hayes, Department of Medicine, St. Michael's Hospital, Institute for Health Policy, Management and Evaluation, University of Toronto, Toronto, Ontario, Canada

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We think that Drs Robert and Donetto have touched upon an important issue.1 First, we did not intend to suggest that experience-based co-design (EBCD) efforts be separate activities—one set for patients, one set for providers. The evidence they point to and, I would say, the lived experience of participants is that having care providers and patients working together to design care processes produces the best value-based …

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